You want a greener, cleaner and healthier home, yet as a consumer, there are just too. many. choices. It’s a common story. So common, in fact, that Leah Segedie decided someone needed to make it easier to go green without going crazy. So, she wrote THE book to help: Green Enough. Listen to learn why Leah’s your perfect green-home guide, and how she’s actually made the process not just manageable, but even a bit fun.
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Announcer: [00:01] The statements in this podcast have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Welcome to episode 13 of "That Supplement Show." Today's episode is a bit of a big deal for this budding podcast.
[00:14] Today, Abigail and Killeen are welcoming newly published author Leah Segedie to the show. Leah's done a lot in the name of detoxification. First, she cleaned up her own diet and self care routine. Then, she cleaned up her family's and her home. Most people would stop there, but not Leah. She wanted to extend her safer, greener ways of living out to her community.
[00:34] In fact, she's not even just an influencer, she's actually an influencer of influencers. We'll get into exactly what that means, along with Leah's story and how her new book, "Green Enough," came to be. If you want to eat better, live cleaner, and be happier all without driving your family, then this is the book, and indirectly, the show for you.
Abigail: [00:52] Hey, what's up Killeen?
Killeen: [00:53] Hello, Abigail! I'm so thrilled to be alongside you today as we welcome our first ever official guest to That Supplement Show, Leah Segedie. Hi, Leah!
Leah Segedie: [01:03] Hey, guys! Thanks so much for having me. I'm honored to be here.
Killeen: [01:08] I am absolutely dying to get straight into the discussion surrounding your recently released book, Green Enough. As with all good stories, I feel like there's this chronology of happenings in your life. Some in the form of experiences or events, accomplishments, all of these little things that are crucial to framing why and how you wrote this book at all.
Abigail: [01:28] I think I know where you're going with this, Killeen. You and I have a tendency to get carried away a bit. [laughs]
Killeen: [01:33] Yes, exactly. We are always tempted to tangent. I wanted to refrain from the classic, "Tell us how this all began." Instead, I'm hoping we can, in a nutshell, cover the biggie milestones in just a few short bursts. You can stop us, Leah, if we leave out something major. Does that sound good?
Leah: [01:51] Yeah, that's fine. If you gave me the ability to talk the whole time, I probably could keep going, [laughs] so keeping me focused is a really good idea. Basically, in a nutshell, I would say a couple of things about me right now. I reach millions of women all across the United States and Canada through mamavation.com.
[02:13] That's a community and a website empowering women with living a healthier life. I refer to the niche as eco wellness. We're in the eco wellness niche. I also organize the only green blogger conference in the country. It's called, "ShiftCon Social Media Conference," where we have hundreds of influencers and tons and tons of brands.
[02:36] I manage the only non GMO blogging network in the United States. It has just over 10,000 influencers. I'm very, very busy, but, at the end of the day, my mission is really about changing the grocery store.
[02:49] What I do is I utilize my websites, organize influencers, and bring this all together with an umbrella of working closely with independent scientists and helping communicate things to the public to change the market and, thus, changing the US.
Killeen: [03:06] Leah, that is such an impressive list. I want to gush about it, but I'm not going to do that just yet. [laughs] It seems to me like, from what I understand, you started out, just to back up a little bit, in this successful career in PR.
[03:24] You were just a superstar. At the same time, with that lifestyle came the negative side of the fast track, jumping towards those quick fix processed foods and things that many of us, as Americans, tend to gravitate towards when our lives are hectic.
Leah: [03:44] When I started out in my 20s, I had a PR career, but I was working in political PR. I was doing really, really fast paced, high stress type of things. I lived on prefabricated, processed food pretty much for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
[04:02] I rubber chicken mealed up the wazoo because I worked for the California State Assembly, and I would hand out awards. I would go those "rubber chicken dinners" and we'd have the awards to hand out to people. I was doing all kinds of things, running around.
[04:21] I didn't really even think about health back then because I was so young. You could see back then that my body was really, really starting to take its toll. I was stressed out constantly. I was having anxiety attacks. I just had so much going on, and I never really slowed down.
[04:39] That type of lifestyle, I think if I would have kept it up, it probably would have killed me. Basically, in a nutshell, daily fast food, no exercise, and very high stress.
Abigail: [04:50] Leah, what changed that around for you?
Leah: [04:52] Well, I became a mother. That's really what shook my world. What happened was I got pregnant with my first son and, at the same time, we found out that my father was dying of cancer. I was pregnant for about three months, and then, [makes trumpet sounds] , my father's dying. They literally gave him just a couple months to live, maybe six months at the most.
[05:19] I went from someone being pregnant, and, "Oh my gosh. Now my body is housing this new life," to my father dying and me thinking, "Oh my God. I have to take care of my father and be there for him up until I absolutely can't anymore."
[05:36] My life really changed and it was rocked, being a mother and being a daughter. It started my change, but after I became a mother...My father actually lived to see the birth of my first child and that was really all he wanted to do. He just wanted to see his first grandchild. Then he passed away about three months later.
[06:00] Then I was left with this brand new baby and I had all this death around me. I had never really thought about being a mother, really, because I was surrounded with my father and his sickness, and helping, and doing this, and doing that, back and forth to doctors and stuff.
[06:17] Then all of a sudden, I'm a mother. I hadn't really had the chance to process during my pregnancy what kind of mother I wanted to be, what I wanted from my children because it was just very different than I think what other people are surrounded by when they have their first pregnancy.
[06:33] I looked into my son's eyes and the one thing that was screaming at me the most was, I just want this kid to be healthy. I just don't want him to be having to deal with chronic disease, with dying of cancer, with any of those things that I'd been surrounded by. That's what I wanted for him.
[06:50] I looked at myself and, at that time, I was about a size 24. They lie when they say that it all comes off [laughs] because it doesn't happen. When you have the baby, that's like, I don't know, 10, 12, 13 pounds or something like that, but the rest of that is your butt.
[07:07] I was looking at myself and I said, "How am I going to create a healthy home for this child if my lifestyle is so incredibly unhealthy?" That was really what you would say the come to Jesus moment for me. I really just looked into my son's eyes and I said, "Well, then that means I have to be healthier to provide him a healthier lifestyle."
[07:28] That's where it was for me. Basically, it was really simple at first because you go from someone who lives on pre packaged food and fast food, and yes, I did that through my first pregnancy as well because someone was dying and I didn't know anything back then. You go from that to giving up soda, which was literally one of the first things that I did, and walking. That was huge for me. [laughs]
[07:51] Just a big, huge change. Little by little, I worked it up to understanding that, if I got rid of a lot of these processed foods and I cooked instead, my body and everything about what was happening, the weight came off quicker, I felt better, all of those things started happening.
[08:13] I took the turn from going against...Stopped buying processed food. Going into the grocery store and looking at the ingredients. I think I spent hours in the grocery store one day just this was 13, 14 years ago looking at ingredients and saying, "What the heck is in this product?" All of these things that I couldn't pronounce. All of these things that I just didn't understand.
[08:37] I felt like saying, "Why do I feel like I need a degree in chemistry to be a good mom?" That's literally what I felt like. It didn't feel right to me. I would look around the grocery store and say, "This isn't fair. Where's the real stuff?"
[08:50] I realized, of course, back then that it was in the perimeter of the grocery store. You had to go to the fruits and vegetables. You had to learn to cook all these things yourself, but there was no one really telling me about those things back then. I had to figure it out all myself.
[09:03] That's how my journey started. You fast forward two years of that and I lost over 100 pounds. I think it was 120 something pounds at the end of the day. I would get better and better with what I would create, what I would feed myself. I ended up doing something very similar to a low glycemic diet. That's how they referred to it back then. It was a diabetic diet.
[09:26] I just cut out a lot of carbs and sugar, and ate a lot more fruits and vegetables, and meats, and dairies, and stuff like that. I just really thought about what I was eating, always making sure I had some fiber with me and a little bit of protein. Then, that's 120 pounds later.
[09:44] Then that's when I said, "I really want to share what I've done with the world." That's when I started my online community. It was really me wanting to give back and give something, pay it forward to other women. That's how it started. I got on the scene about 12 years ago.
Killeen: [10:04] When you talk about that scene, that's mind blowing. I think 12 years ago, blogs were really not...I don't even know if that was a household term, never mind something that people did as a profession. This has really [laughs] come very far from a blog of your own to an online community.
[10:25] I think what I saw when I went to your second ShiftCon, as you explained earlier, where you had a social media conference for eco wellness influencers. I was so blown away by this. Let me tell you, the message that you had was so loud and clear because I went there feeling like, "Hey, you know what? I'm a pretty green girl."
[10:49] People around me all looked at me as the green girl, but, when I left, my mind was absolutely spinning and I was sitting there going, "Shoot, I have so much work to do," but I wasn't too dismayed because something that you said had stuck with me.
[11:05] You had clarified, really, that we're all different shades of green. You talked about some of us being light green and some of us being über dark green and as I sat there in this sea of women, it really did make sense that we're all at different points on our green journey.
[11:21] So many of us land somewhere in the middle or maybe not even anywhere on the spectrum at all. To me, ShiftCon was about making these little shifts, hence the name, even small ones because any shift for the better is a good shift.
[11:37] I was completely inspired to think that making small changes was something that I could control. Just to give you an aside, I have to tell you, I even started my own little blog to document some of those wins, and I still write on it occasionally.
Leah: [11:50] That's so exciting! When I thought about organizing a conference and getting all these women together, that was at the center of my heart, was that we need to value people for the journey that they're taking. What that means is, it's your journey, it's your life, it's your family, it's your time line. Everybody needs to value that part of the process where that's yours and yours only.
[12:18] When we look around at other people, it's not to say, "I'm greener than you," or, "You're greener than me," it's to say, "Hey, I support you on your journey and your time line in your own way, and you support me in that same way."
[12:32] I feel like if we take the focus off of what you're doing you know what I'm saying, those specific little things and more onto supporting people with just love, and acceptance, and support. We all want to get there to the finish line, but everybody has their own paths.
[12:49] Also, understanding that as influencers, really because this is a sea of influencers we got the deep green influencers who are closer to me, I'm medium to deep, and then you've got the light green influencers.
[13:02] Those deep green influences understand the science, understand the process, understand everything that has been happening and have been there for a long time, but the light green bloggers are really the ones that are reaching that tipping point audience that not everybody can reach because they're light on the spectrum.
[13:19] We really need that entire group and all of those shades to make up a movement because this movement isn't about one person. It's really about all of us. If the movement was about one person let's say it's about me I'm only reaching millions. That makes it so...It's not working. The bigger audience and having everybody in it is where we can reach the world.
[13:44] Really, at the end of the day, what we need to do is reach the world. It has to involve everybody. ShiftCon's really just a manifestation of that, of our value of everybody in their own road, in their own time line, in their own community with the assets that they have.
Abigail: [14:02] I think that's a really important distinction because I think oftentimes we get scared to maybe dive into a new community or a new way of living for fear of that judgment, and I think especially in the mom community, [laughs] so a really important distinction.
[14:17] Something else that I love that you had said in your book, if we could start to chat about that a little bit, and because I'm a lover of words...Anyone who's listened to this before, I probably talk about books and reading more than I should on our wellness podcast.
Abigail: [14:31] I wanted to make mention of your spin on this family quote. The quote was, "This home is clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy," but you've got a fun spin on that.
Leah: [14:42] Yeah. That little quote was in my grandma's house. Whenever I would go to my grandma's house, that's what I saw. When I started becoming someone who was greener, more sustainable, looking and avoiding endocrine disrupting chemicals for my family, I had to process balance in my head somehow on how not to get too crazy in one area and not another.
[15:04] What I created was, my plaque says, "This home is green enough to be healthy and chill enough to be happy." Really what that means for me is, I want to protect my family from harmful chemicals and I want to greenify the home and detox the home, but not at the expense of their mental health.
[15:23] I do what I can and then I just chill out. That's how I have to do it. I think once you understand all the things that are going on in your home and what, potentially, that is in your home could cause hormone disruption in your family, it can get really overwhelming.
[15:40] That's why it's important to realize, do what you can, do what you can control and then you just chill out with the rest of it because what you don't want to do is drive other people crazy. Then you're not going to get anywhere, so you have to have that balance. That plaque is really what does it for me, "This home is green enough to be healthy and chill enough to be happy."
Abigail: [15:59] Do you have that up, hanging in your house?
Leah: [16:01] It's literally above the television. My husband bought it for me for Christmas and it was so cool because I was going to have it made, but he just said, " [makes trumpet sound] , I'm going to make it for you." That's what he gets me for Christmas and, of course, here comes the waterworks. I'm like, "Aw," crying because it was the sweetest, most sentimental thing.
[16:19] The thing was, he warned me. He told me. He's like, "I bought you something this year that's going to make you cry," and I'm like, "No, you didn't. You can't do that after telling me that I'm going to cry, then have me cry," and he totally did, because he knows me too well.
Abigail: [16:34] I love that so much.
Killeen: [16:35] Abi and I talk about our husbands and how sweet they are a lot. It's nice to have you in the sweet husband club. We need more of that.
Leah: [16:44] Yes, he's so sweet, totally. He's the one that has had lots of girlfriends in college. He was like the protector, "I'll walk you to your room," "I'll do this," "I'll do that." He's been very much an empowering...He's a male who doesn't mind empowered females. He really loves strong women, obviously, or he wouldn't have married me. [laughs] If he hadn't, that would've been a problem.
Abigail: [17:09] Let's sign him up for a future podcast, Killeen.
Killeen: [17:12] I know!
Leah: [17:13] He does Lego. You guys might be interested in that. Anyone who randomly is interested in Lego, and I mean obsessed Lego, check out MrBookieboo on Instagram or any other platform and you will see our Lego room. Sidebar, that's his own universe right there. I kid you not, it's just like the movie.
Killeen: [17:32] Wow. We'll put that in the show notes for sure. [laughs] When you were talking about strong women, there's another quote where you talk about, "I hate to be told what to do, so I avoided green moms like the plague," and I think this book is exactly...
[17:48] Your essence here is really reaching those people that have been just overwhelmed or put off by feeling like they're being preached to or lectured at. Nobody wants that, but you're fun, you're colorful and you assume this role of really relating to your reader. That's why I'm so excited about this book.
[18:10] I would never feel preached to. I want this information, but I have friends that don't, and I think they would still be able to eat it up and have their eyes pop out of their head a little bit and say, "Oh my gosh. Gee, maybe it's not so hard to just shift this one little thing."
[18:24] Maybe I don't need to use this particular chemical in my house anymore because here's an alternative. That's why I'm really thrilled about this book.
Abigail: [18:32] Let's have a quick word from our sponsor and then we can get into the specifics on what readers can expect to find inside the pages of Green Enough along with why I feel you've made the ominous task of detoxifying that much more tackleable. Is that a word? More after this.
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Abigail: [19:16] Just a few episodes back, I think it was episode 10A, we talked about minimalism. It was a means to find gratitude in that episode and I referenced a book by Marie Kondo. I think one of the things that made the "Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" so successful was the way that she broke down minimizing into these really digestible pieces.
[19:35] I feel like Green Enough is reminiscent of that format. It makes it feel a lot less overwhelming when it comes to getting started and that fear that we talked about earlier. For our listeners who are intrigued, I thought it'd be nice to hear how you break down each of the main topics that you cover.
Leah: [19:51] Yeah, sure. It is like that idea where, if you're going to eat an elephant, you've got to take it one bite at a time. There is so much going on in the house that, if I just threw everything at you at the same time, it would be like, "OK, that's it. I'm done. I'm leaving now. I just can't even handle it." That's what it feels like if you get it all thrown at you. It's overwhelming.
[20:12] What I did instead was I broke it down into seven chapters. We start with food as being the number one thing. You kind of do a pantry purge, but what I'm telling you is you can either, number one, purge your pantry, pull back your pantry, or just take it all in and do what you can at that moment.
[20:32] It's that idea that once you start down this road, you have to remember, are you the only person in the home? If you're the only person in the home, do it all and do as much as you can, but if you're living with other people in your family, you have to remember that they did not sign up for these changes, you are signing them up.
[20:50] You have to remember that little, tiny changes are not going to have as much pushback as those big, dramatic changes. When we do our pantry purge, I tell you what needs to be purged and I tell you where you want to be. This is based on how you want your lifestyle to be. Then you decide, you take those steps going towards that.
[21:12] We give you recommendations on how little or how much that could be. That's starting with food. Then, at the end of every chapter, we go through products up the wazoo. Every chapter of food categories, from frozen food to packaged goods and snacks to all those things and we give them to you bad, better, best.
[21:31] Out of all the companies that you've seen, you know who's the worst, who's the middle of the road and who's the best? You can make that decision on your own based on your own lifestyle. Second chapter is about food packaging, cookware, and storage containers. This chapter is where you can have your biggest impact in avoiding hormone disrupting chemicals just with one fell swoop.
[21:53] That gives you your biggest impact right there. If you weren't able to do as much with food, you could come to the second chapter, take a couple of those items and boom, get rid of so many hormone disrupting chemicals in your house. It's the best thing you can do. That's why I did number two, food packaging, cookware, and storage containers because that's where it is right there.
[22:15] Three, we have cleaner produce. It's really the question of, "What produce is safe?" versus, "What is something that I don't have to buy organic?" We break that down for you based on what the produce is and what country it's coming from so that you have an idea, asparagus from Mexico versus asparagus from somewhere else.
[22:37] Then you also know a lot more about which fruits and vegetables have the most pesticides and which of them do not. That breaks that down for you there. Then we go into chapter four about healthier meat and dairy. This is where there's a lot of confusion out there in the industry.
[22:54] There's so many certifications and it's like, "What do they mean? Really, what do they mean?" What we do is we break it down for you and tell you which ones actually have meaning and which ones are really marketing BS. We tell you what is what, and what to look for. Then we give you, "Do you want to be here, here, here, here, or here on a scale?" You decide based on your family.
[23:15] Then we go onto chapter five, which is Good Eats, which is where I take all of these recipes that I've created, including...I've got to tell you. I have this drawer in my refrigerator called the drawer of good intentions. In the drawer of good intentions is where the vegetables go to die. You know what I'm talking about.
[23:34] You go to the grocery store and you're like, "I'm going to do so good this week and I'm going to buy this and that and this and that," and, "Every single day, I'm going to make the best, healthiest meals," and you end up skipping a day or two and then your lettuce starts to wilt in the drawer.
[23:45] What do you do with those things? I have recipes for that that I've created over the years. I call them my DoGI recipes. Drawer of good intention recipes on what to do with wilted lettuce, tomatoes, all of those things so you don't have to feed them to the chickens, or put them in the compost, or throw them away.
[24:00] Then we have 50 plus recipes to help you with things like cooking your own beans. All of these other things that I tell you about in the book are things that you want to assume and avoid those hormone disrupting chemicals.
[24:13] Then we've got chapter six, which is Room to Room, which is where I take you through the kitchen, the bathroom, the living room, the dining room, all of these places and what inside those rooms like appliances, furniture, air quality, how to clean them, what to do in those rooms to make it as healthy as possible for your family.
[24:33] Then the last chapter is about personal care, personal care products. I break it down for you. That's the most difficult chapter, by the way, because there's the least amount of regulation in the personal care industry, so we have to be really clear about that. Then this is what's going on in the personal care industry.
[24:50] These are the best products bad, better, best, essentially. You know on that scale where you want to be. Then we also give you a lot of recipes that you can make yourself. For instance, I make my own deodorant most of the time. Here's my recipe that you can make at home that I promise you will work and will keep you smelling better, so that's put in there.
Leah: [25:14] Then a nutshell in the book, as you're reading all these chapters, I have two scientific advisors that have come along with me on the ride. Those two scientific advisors are Tania Altman. She's a pediatrician. She's the spokesperson of the American Academy of Pediatrics, so she's on the TV like "The Dr. Oz Show," "The Doctors." She has chimed in this book in almost every single chapter.
[25:35] Then Pete Meyers. I refer to him as the godfather, really. He coined the phrase endocrine disrupting chemicals. That's him. He's done a lot of research on BPA. Today, he organizes and speaks all over the world. He's also been recognized by the National Institute of Health.
[25:53] He chimes in in pretty much every chapter. Not only are you getting this really funny...I'm also swearing like a sailor in the vast majority of the book, which is just like. If you get to know me, you know two things about me. I really have a big heart and I want to help everybody, and, number two, I swear like a sailor. Those are two things that are true about me, and they're true in the book.
[26:15] The book is communicated in a way that I want you to remember the information. I'm delivering it in a way that's fun, relatable, and just full of snark because I think about who I was 15 years ago and what would be interesting to me? What would not be interesting to me is feeling like I have someone who's hitting me over the head with a green sledgehammer.
[26:35] That's not what this is about. This is about me walking into your home as a girlfriend, holding your hand, giving you a glass or organic wine and say, "OK, where do you want to start? Let's go room to room," basically. That's what we're offering. Detoxing your home of endocrine disrupting chemicals, backed by science, backed by a lot of people in the industry.
[26:56] Then you know, with the brands, what brands to select, which brands you don't want to select, which brands you like. Which ones are doing better things in world? You just want to support them. It's just really empowering. Put all those together and that's Green Enough.
Abigail: [27:15] I had a chance to skim through the book and read. I honed in on after few pages and chapters that I really wanted to read more and I love the green grooming section, those recipes. So excited to make that whipped body butter [laughs] recipe that you had in there. I also wanted to mention the tone of it.
[27:33] As you said, snarky and so fun. I described it to a friend as having a great conversation with a well informed girlfriend. That's what it felt like.
Leah: [27:44] You have to remember that, when you're presenting something different to somebody, in order for them to take in that information, they have to respect you first.
[27:53] It's like, I can hit people over the head with a green sledgehammer all day long. To me, that's boring, and it makes my eyes bleed, and I'm not interested, or I can deliver that information to you in a way that's relatable, and funny, and just memorable.
[28:06] Then, guess what? You're going to make some changes. You're going to do some "shifts." You're going to find that you're green enough. The book is all about not being perfect, but just deciding where your green place in the world is and then having all these options available to you. You have the information and you do what you want of it.
[28:26] We're not here to judge you. We're just here to support you. We just want to help you be better and you decide what that better is because it's your life and your family.
Killeen: [28:35] You see, Abigail, how absolutely cool Leah is? I feel like, if anyone's listened to previous episodes of our show, they know exactly why, Leah, you fit in so well. Abi and I, we adore this kind of stuff and I think we also both have a passion to try to make a little bit of a difference.
[28:54] Knowing that I have this book that I can slide on over the table to somebody that might be maybe teensy bit interested, but generally rolling their eyes at me when I'm talking about green initiatives, this is the way to reach people.
[29:08] I feel like I can hand it to my husband and he'll be like, "You know what? Maybe you aren't so crazy after all, Killeen. I understand now why you want to change this and why you want to change that."
[29:19] I think it's so relatable, so fun, and really reminds me how collectively we can make a difference with this ripple effect of passing on this knowledge in a way that is fun and doesn't feel like a lecture.
Leah: [29:32] Yeah. Thanks for that. I worked really hard for two years writing it and it's really just a culmination of all the things that I've learned, and all of the professionals I've interviewed, and all of the stuff.
[29:45] At the end of the day, I think if we approach this with a heart full of love as opposed to a heart full of something else, I think we're going to make magic. As I was reading the book, I just reminded myself of, "Leah, it's about love, and it's about being funny, and it's about making people smile.
"[30:04] This isn't about hitting them over the head with a green sledgehammer." At the end of the day, people care about their lives and their family. They're not necessarily caring about the polar bears. When you read this book, it's all about you and you being the warrior princess of your own life.
[30:23] It's not about us telling you want to do. It's about you deciding for yourself, you being empowered, and you being the center point.
Abigail: [30:30] Leah, where and when can our listeners pick up a copy of Green Enough?
Leah: [30:34] It's on sale starting March 20th, but you can buy Green Enough at any major retailer, including Barnes and Noble, and of course you can pick it up online, say, for instance Amazon. If you just Google Green Enough and my name it'll pop right up and have at it.
Killeen: [30:51] I think I'd like to also give away a copy to one of our listeners. Abigail, what do you think about that?
Abigail: [30:57] I think that's a perfect idea and you're reading my mind because I actually was going to suggest the same thing.
Killeen: [31:01] I would love to give away not one but two copies to one lucky listener. It'd be nice to give somebody one to keep and then one to share with a friend who they think might be inspired. In order to enter, go onto our Facebook page and just leave us a comment or leave us a post and let us know what you liked about today's episode. That's episode 13, Green Enough with Leah Segedie.
Leah: [31:27] That's awesome.
Abigail: [31:27] Pass it on. Pay it forward. That's a great idea, Killeen.
Leah: [31:30] Totally.
Killeen: [31:31] As I said before, I'm in complete admiration of your change maker accomplishments and I really feel that Green Enough is a reminder that we're all change makers in our own right and that no change is too small.
[31:41] Thank you so much, Leah, for sharing your wisdom and your passion with us today and within your book in the name of our health, and our family's health, and our mother earth, too.
Leah: [31:50] Thanks for having me on, guys. It's been an honor, truly. Thank you.
Abigail: [31:55] Thanks for joining us, Leah.
Killeen: [31:56] Abi, I was thinking. It would be really fun to recap our progress with how we do, each individually, at tackling some of these detoxification to dos that have resulted from reading Green Enough. I thought maybe we could revisit the book in six months or so to share our successes as well as the areas in which maybe we could still do better.
[32:15] Have a little show where we inspire each other and inspire our listeners.
Abigail: [32:19] Like a look where they are now episode.
Killeen: [32:22] Yeah.
Abigail: [32:23] I'm game. I'm totally for it, and I'm going to latch onto something you said. The word better. I wanted to tease out our next episode.
Killeen: [32:30] You're talking about our MegaFood gummies, aren't you?
Abigail: [32:33] Yes, I am. I'm so excited, but I can hear some apprehension in your voice, Killeen.
Killeen: [32:39] I know. It's true. I am team tablet all the way. I've even gotten my kids...When they were five, taught them how to swallow tablet vitamins because I was that anti gummy. Come on, we work at MegaFood. We make tablets.
[32:54] As yummy as they may be, I'm not sold on why we're making our first gummy. However, I think it's really good that we're set up for a bit of debate. I just recently went to a podcasting conference and, Abi, I found out that you and I are way too similar. We don't have any conflict between us and that could be boring. Oh, no, right? We're too much the same.
[33:16] I was like, "What do I do? Do we get rid of one of us?" No, we can't do that. Instead, let's have a little debate. I think it'll be fun. I think it'll keep things interesting, and I'm all for you trying to convince me that gummies are A OK.
Abigail: [33:28] I'm not going to say I'll win, but [laughs] I think I can convince you. I think I can do it.
Killeen: [33:36] You probably can, but I'm not going to cave right away. We'll say that. I'm going to put up a good fight.
Abigail: [33:41] All right. It'll be fun. We'll talk soon.
Killeen: [33:43] OK, sounds great.
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